Nicely stated, my friend. At 09:10 AM 3/6/2008, ty wrote: good stuff.
"mac," huh? they're calling him, "mac" i see. he has nickname now. i guess that's it then. "mac" beats "bitch" or "shine."
i have very, very smart friends who are certain that your so-called "mac" will fall ill and be replaced by the tan and rested huckabee. if not before the general, then more devastatingly, afterwards.
i don't think the dems eating each other is necessarily bad. the hillary or barack that competes for the general will not be the gleeful, playful, smiley candidates we've seen in the recent past. they will have aged, become much harder. mean.
these are serious times. iran. china. india-pakistan. russia. all could come into play.
as much as the liberals look forward to "happy days are here again," it's never going to be like that in grown-up politics or government. 1) if a dem wins, it's a lot of broken shit to fix; a huge mess to inherit. no easy chore on any account and the expectation will be for instant fix. people are fucking fickle. 2) the next VP will expect great power. gore then cheney escalated the VP role to something much more than ribbon cutter. the next VP will want decision making power. power. power. this will leave the next president a bit limp a the pulpit. 3) think it's a mess now? october will be the nastiest thing you've ever witnessed; a parade of scandal, courtroom drama, and bimbo/himbo he/she-saids. all around. 4) the economy is shit. 5) the environment is shit. 6) the supreme court is the next battleground.
happy days? nope. so i give up to hills and obama. they are scratching...aching to be the next president and it won't be a homecoming ball.
On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 8:36 AM, dan wrote:
- From a college friend, Army guy, republican leaning but open to discussion:
- >Conventional conservative wisdom says that Mac needs these next 2-6 months
- >to rest (while the Dem demolition derby continues from Pottstown to Puerto
- >Rico), build his own grassroots org since the rovian model is outdated and
- >the base is depressed, fund-raise deep pockets so to have a chance against
- >C-O in the Fall... Under this concept, every endorsement
- >helps, whether it be some wacko minister in Texas to an unpopular
- >lame-duck president (also from Texas)... the theory being that Mac's
- >personal
- >negatives are not as high as Bush or Clinton, that he will get some (how
- >much being key) independent and cross-over votes as both an American hero
- >and as a Fighter of Evil World Terrorism, be it in Iraq, Iran, Afghan, or
- >Altoona, PA, and that those who hate the idea of a Bush 3rd term war-prez
- >effort in Iraq (ala Biz) would never vote for him anyway so why not go for
- >the 20-30% who will vote the national security/Iraq issues...
- >
- >I don't buy it.
- >
- >The keys to Mac's fate are three-fold: implosion, opponent, explosion.
- >Implosion means Mac's tendency to gag-goof-gaff his way to defeat, as he
- >did in the 2000 race against Bush, as he has done the last 3 weeks versus
- >no one but media-bait, Obama-debate (from afar), and master-bate (where he
- >or his staff flogs it ugly in public).
- >
- >Opponent means HRC or BH2O... in my view (again contrary to ccw), Hillary
- >is not the easiest of the two to defeat. If it's Obama, he will use the
- >same Dem support and issues that Roddy will use, buttt - his character is
- >such that he would stand a bit too distant above the fray, not mix it up
- >inside enough (loathes shiv-stabbing), and that fact, coupled with
- >last-minute 'undecideds' giving the nod to Mac's war and experience creds,
- >would make the election very close... If it's Roddy (tag-teamed w/hubba),
- >it's not a fair fight. TCM-raw plus DNC-$$$ plus Soros/moveon attacks will
- >frustrate him so badly that he will anger-out-stupid himself in the Fall
- >debates and Hill (who relishes knife-fights) will carve him up like an old
- >stuffed tom turkey... Tell Freddie it will be a sad site indeed, and
- >Billary will win Big despite their high negs.
- >
- >Explosion means events outside the DNC-RNC election strategies and
- >tactics. It could be a national crisis like recession quickly becoming
- >depression, or a major terrorist attack ala WTC-3 jolting the whole
- >country. It could be a huge international event such as Pak-Indian nuke
- >war or IDF all-out attack of Iranian weapons sites or Putin annexes
- >Poland? The point is we can't foresee whether such an event would help or
- >hurt Mac's chances. But we Can Cee that their is a distinct possibility
- >for serious outside explosive mischief in the Sep-Oct 08 time-frame
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